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Crisis body blow to Alex's dreams



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Published Date: 24 October 2008
ALEX "Slugger" Salmond has come back off the ropes with his fists flying after taking more body blows than in bouts of late.
The huge and unprecedented scale of the bailout of those banks that got into debt problems of their own making has asked serious questions of Salmond's economic case for independe nce.

His weekend conference speech gave him the chance to land a
few punches of his own, but other than the personal jibes, he looked seriously off-form, like a man desperate for the bell to ring and bring some respite.

Could an independent Scotland have saved the Royal Bank of Scotland and HBoS to the tune of a £30 billion bailout – equivalent to the annual spending of Salmond's Government?

And, of course, it's not just the capital that's being invested – but all the hundreds of billions that are available to deal with any bad debt write-offs and "short-term" liquidity issues. Could an independent Scotland have afforded that too?

Those are the questions now haunting Alex Salmond and the SNP.

For Slugger – the southpaw that once said he would have put up a puny £100 million to save HBoS – the media are now portraying him as a chump rather than a champ.

As the bell rang, Slugger rushed out and went straight for "Bomber" Brown's solar plexus, saying he had created the age of irresponsibility.

But the blow missed.

If Brown was irresponsible for expanding the money supply, helping housing prices let rip and going on a public spending spree like there was no tomorrow – and he was – then one thing was certain, Slugger Salmond had always been ringside cheering him on.

In fact Slugger and his corner were baying for more, more, more.

In the eight years I sat in the Scottish Parliament there was never a day when the SNP did not call for greater spending than Labour offered as the cure-all to Scotland's problems. Even now, Slugger Salmond is at it again, demanding a further £1bn from the UK Treasury to soften the blow as we come off the drug of government money.

Of course an independent Scotland could have put itself in hock to international financiers and other governments (the Russians, England even?) or the International Monetary Fund and left future generations to pick up the bill. Not just you or your children, but your grandchildren too.

True, Iceland is independent of Denmark and despite the collapse of its big banks is not rushing to reunite with the Danes. Still, its financial reputation is in ruins and it's not just the banks there that are bust – the country is too. One can't but help but notice that the British Government – not the Icelandic Government – is guaranteeing the deposits of British people in Icelandic banks.

Would an independent Scotland have felt no shame if an English government had guaranteed the billions invested by English depositors in RBS and HBoS? It would be an independence in mind only.

Ah but, the Nationalists say, we would be in the Euro and the European institutions would bail us out. No doubt they would – but only after they had bailed themselves out first. Germany is raising £62bn, Spain £50bn, France £31bn, Italy £30bn and Portugal £16bn (plus another £854bn in guarantees).

Of course there's always oil. Sure it brings in millions every day (the figure varies, now back below $70 a barrel and falling) but there's a problem there too – for the SNP has already committed that oil money to pay for all our welfare, defence and international expenditure that an independent Scotland needs – and spent it again on the milk and honey it has promised and can't yet afford, such as more teachers and police.

The truth is Scotland can be independent if it wants – and it could pay its way in the world – eventually. It would, however, take a real cut in our standard of living that the Nationalist politicians won't get real about and is, as yet, unquantified.

To make Scotland really prosperous like, say, Singapore or Hong Kong would require just the sort of policies that nearly all Scottish politicians despise – a small welfare state, even smaller taxes and even less government regulation. An independent Scottish Parliament? It might as well become a visitor centre for Holyrood Palace and Arthur's Seat.

But why put ourselves through all that?

Why settle for running Scotland when we already run England too? It's Gordon Brown that RBS has to be thankful for, it's Alistair Darling that First Minister Salmond has to go bunnet-in hand to, and it's all those Scots before them – Robin Cook, Malcolm Rifkind, George Younger – that ran England before them.

Going it alone
Is there something in our Scottish genes that helps us produce individual talent but struggle in team games? I simply observe that, as a nation, Scotland is terrific at producing world champion drivers, snooker players, cyclists, golfers and now, in Andy Murray, a true world-class Scottish and British tennis star has arrived? If someone can capture and bottle that DNA we might win the World Cup one day.





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  • Last Updated: 24 October 2008 9:49 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Brian Monteith
 
1

shivago8,

livingston 24/10/2008 10:16:32
Great man,Alex,lead us out of this union wilderness and lets be our own nation again.
Passports to be produced when crossing the hadrians wall from the south
2

Gregor Addison,

Glasgow 24/10/2008 10:56:25
#1

You want to get out of Livingston more. If you take a holiday in Europe you'll realize that you can travel across borders without a passport. It's all about being in the EU. I'm surprised someone so politically keen as you are hasn't cottoned onto the EU yet. Still, you're in good company - neither has George Foulkes.
3

The Answer,

Glasgow 24/10/2008 11:47:23
Ahh well, oil is down more than 50% of it's high, but whisky will pay the bills NOT!

£8.3 billion alchohol revenue 2007/08

of which

£593 million from whisky consumption in UK

8% is scotlands share of UK population

8% of £593 million = £47 million

which upon independence would be retained in Scotland and wouldnt even pay the bills of EU students studying for free at scottish universities...

Come on nats, enlighten me to how you come up with a figure of billions of whisky revenue being sent south to feed England ?



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4

First Minister,

Markinch 24/10/2008 12:41:45
#3-The Ansewr, you really need to get out more, are you Scottish/North british or English?
I am English, but beleive that Scotland should have the right to self-determination just like every other country in the world, why dont you wish the same?
25% of all britins food/drink is Whisky.
5

First Minister,

24/10/2008 12:42:33
sorry 25% of britains food/drink Export is whisky
6

Linda,

Edinburgh 24/10/2008 13:09:42
Alex Salmond never said he would find £100m to bail out HBOS or RBS. This figure was conjured out the air by Unionist politicians and reported as fact by some anti SNP newspapers. Nevermind that Norway found £35 billion and Ireland guaranteed banking system for up to £320 millions.

The UK has a massive budget deficit which is even worse if you add true costs of PFI which are "off balance sheet" but that seems OK but not for some smaller nations.

Even at current lowish oil prices Scotland pays its way.

Why do British Nationalists not stick to the facts about Ireland and Norway which are both better off than the UK in dealing with Banking crisis and the coming recession.
7

Digby Hepplethwaite,

24/10/2008 13:48:11
What a badly-written article this is. Monteith starts off with a boxing metaphor, but gives up on it half-way through.

His arguments are just as poorly constructed. Expanding the money supply to create an artificial UK consumer boom (as Brown did) isn't the same as demanding funding to cure specific Scottish social problems (as Salmond did).

I could go on, but why bother? Next week there'll be yet another confused and rambling stream of (sub)consciousness from this intellectually-limited Tory.

Mind you, the very fact that Monteith managed to hold down a seat in the Scottish Parliament for eight years is a more potent argument against Scottish independence than anything that he could write.

8

I love to eat Sellotape,

24/10/2008 13:51:48
To the above, I can only add that I am made entirely of strontium.
9

familymanwith2jobsandawifeworkingfulltime,

24/10/2008 20:34:31
Who gives a **** THe Scottish goverment (I hate that word) is just a total waste of tax payers money. Jobs for the boys (and the girls)
10

Conan the Librarian™,

25/10/2008 04:54:38
9
Yes; Scottish Government is so much better.
11

Lauwrie,

25/10/2008 14:51:14
I wouldn't let unionist gloating by the likes of Monteith bother you. Its only a setback not the end of an independent Scotland. Since the passing of the Scotland Act 1998 the UK has altered fundamentally and England, that great,hardly considered, other part of the "U" K has belatedly started to come to some conclusions.
One is that we pay for the UK and two is that we have no representation as England. We only get thought of as part of this place called Britain and the British propaganda in England gets more intense by the day.

Regardless of the gyrations in the markets, English aspirations for self rule are growing all the time and that includes our own parliament and government. In the end the unionists, if they want to conserve even a diluted and altered union are going to have to recognise England.

And that implies the a continuing Scottish parliament, government and budget.

 

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