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RBS to spend 'obscene' £1m on Christmas parties for staff



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Published Date: 12 November 2008
ROYAL Bank of Scotland is to spend £1 million on Christmas parties for staff, it emerged today.
The Edinburgh-based banking giant, set to receive a £20 billion handout from the UK Government, is to allow all 100,000 of its staff across the UK £10 per head for this year's celebrations.

Individual departments will then be able to bring together the money and use it towards their annual celebrations.

The party windfall, which bank sources say is "fairly modest", comes just days after it was revealed that RBS spent more than £300,000 entertaining 40 senior employees and 30 partners from its Bancassurance department at its Gogarburn headquarters.

The latest details to emerge about spending on staff entertaining have raised more concerns at how taxpayers' money is being spent. SNP Central Scotland MSP Alex Neil, a member of the Scottish Parliament's finance committee, said: "I don't want to be a party pooper, but spending £1m on Christmas parties when so many pensioners have lost their savings as a result of the RBS share collapse is obscene. A degree of economy and sacrifice needs to be shown from the top down. It is bad enough that its chief executive is getting £1.2m a year plus shares.

"There is a lot more to this situation now and banks have to realise that it is taxpayers' money they are spending. They're playing with fire when they spend £1m on Christmas parties when so many are feeling the pinch."

The amount RBS is to spend will be the same as last year – despite the recent turmoil that has seen it effectively part-nationalised.

Rival banks have moved to scale back spending. Barclays and Morgan Stanley have both told staff they will not be funding Christmas parties, but Lloyds TSB has said it will allow staff a "modest" amount. A spokesman for HBoS said: "We do not have any set criteria for Christmas celebrations for staff. When staff do celebrate Christmas together, we ensure the cost is modest."

Independent Lothians MSP Margo MacDonald added: "I take it RBS have sacked all of their public relations staff?"

RBS was not willing to formally defend its Christmas party contribution, but a source at the bank said: "Our policy has always been that the group will contribute up to £10 to individuals for Christmas parties. It is done on a departmental basis at a business level. The contribution is fairly modest.

"We have 100,000 staff up and down the country working hard for the company. It is really important to continue to recognise that and continue to motivate staff."

Mark Wallace, campaign director for the Taxpayers' Alliance, said: "This seems like a fairly limited programme.

"What we do want to make sure is that there are not any behind-the-scenes parties going on for the elite in the company."


The full article contains 485 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 12 November 2008 10:54 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Bank of Scotland
 
1

Johnny Yen,

12/11/2008 11:48:11
to be fair, £10 a head is hardly excessive in trying to keep up a little bit of staff morale.
The £300k spent recently on 40 senior staff is obscene when jobs are at stake.
2

Amenemhat,

12/11/2008 11:59:59
And how much per head is the Scotsmans Xmas Party? leave frontline staff alone ya numpties
3

alex paterson,

edinburgh 12/11/2008 12:03:28
£1 million,thats what they wont you to believe,there will be a lot put in brown envelopes.
4

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12/11/2008 12:10:35
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5

Hibby Heapy,

Nose in the Trough 12/11/2008 12:11:54
Yum Yum!

Personally I think I they should be getting £50 per head. After all you can't even get a decent meal out of McDoanlds for £10.00
6

alex patersons English teacher,

12/11/2008 12:17:53
5.
your right alex,its reckless wontan behaviour.
7

blackley,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 12:18:59
Why shouldn't they have a party? Stop trying to be like the Daily Mail for god's sake!
8

Andy1,

12/11/2008 12:21:45
The reporting on banks now is what is becoming obscene.

This is just £10 a head for frontline staff who have worked harder than ever to cover for bad decisions made at the top.

Everyone should rememeber that these banks are still making large underlying profits when the exceptional write downs due to investing in the didgy assets that have been much publicised have been accounted before. They need to continue to be run as commerical organistations and that means keeping an motivating staff. Staff who will probably see no profit sharing, bonuses or pay increases next year through no fault of their own.

Most staff are also shareholders and have been saving and buying shares monthly for years and will have seen those savings trashed.

So, £10 a head for a Christmas meal. Leave it alone.





9

Stray Fox,

12/11/2008 12:25:12
Yes EEN, how obscene!! A tenner per head is not enough, especially for all the staff who have been grafting all year.
10

Phil MaGlass,

Holland 12/11/2008 12:29:34
The government here in Holland also pumped billions into banks and the first thing they done was to stop this happening and stop directors and the likes getting obscene wages and bonuses,never mind trying to keep moral up (they should be damn lucky they have jobs at all),try telling that to the millions who have lost their pensions or shares and will now struggle to have a decent pension when retiring,while were at it,8loody government goes on about making sure we have private pensions and as soon as the people get a private pension the government cuts their state pension its immoral.
11

alex patersons English teacher,

12/11/2008 12:37:33
13
and the morale of the story is too stay
happy.
12

Unimpressed one,

12/11/2008 12:45:40
Will Gordon Brown be dressing up as Santa for their parties?
13

malcyh,

12/11/2008 12:51:57
MSP Alex Neil, a member of the Scottish Parliament's finance committee, said: "I don't want to be a party pooper, but spending £1m on Christmas parties when so many pensioners have lost their savings as a result of the RBS share collapse is obscene.

Re the above comment
No-one have lost their savings in RBS have they? And you should only put into the stockmarket whayt you can afford to loose. Rather ill informed comment from someone on the finance committee. Come on Alex tell us how much the Holyrood bash is costing and remember its also the general public who is paying that and your overinflated salary - for exactly what?
RBS fronline staff deserve something for all their hard work
14

Brian Ferrari,

12/11/2008 12:55:45
I've been scratching my head at this £300,000 figure that RBS spent entertaining a total of 70 people at their own headquarters.

According to my calculator this works out at £4,285.71 per head. Now obviously they didn't have to pay for the premises, so I'm assuming it was all spent on drink, food, and party hats.

I didn't hear of any reports of ambulances picking up comatose staff and I'm assuming they didn't have a supply of purest Columbian so what were they serving? Caviar and truffles cooked by Gordon Ramsay?

15

It's me!,

12/11/2008 12:56:15
Lots of comments from bank staff today! How about £10 per head for customers?
16

Richard Mcl,

12/11/2008 13:06:49
as a former bank employee i know there will be a whole lot more paid for on Corporate credit cards..... the bank will have to keep a close eye on this spending now... I had countless lunches paid for me on the RBS Bistro on the Gogarburn "social club!"
17

Brian Ferrari,

12/11/2008 13:06:55
Mario

ok, say £600 per person for 2 nights at a "top Edinburgh hotal" and £500 for club class flights so that still leaves almost £3,200 per person.

Personally I think the figure's testicles.
18

Pond Hall,

12/11/2008 13:09:04
money well spent !

yip they closed our local branch years ago to improve the service,

result 2 to 3 mile round trip on the bus at a cost of £2.20.

Good to see they are spending the Taxpayers Money Wisely.
19

Andy1,

12/11/2008 13:15:00
#13

I think you are confusing normal staff with executives.

The normal staff are not 'damn lucky they have still got jobs' they have worked execetionally hard and had to deal with a lot this year on top of the usual service.

The issues with the banks were with a very particular area within all their investment bank businesses or through bad business models over relaiant on particular funding models.

Normal staff didn't make any of those issues.

Yes shareholders and pensioners have seen values go down, again as a result of decisons made way above normal staff and little to do with any normal banking. In fact most, like RBs still have huge underlying profits of close to £10 billion a year which would ordinarily provide great value to shareholders like it has done over the past how many years.

So, lay off the normal staff, the reporting is pathetic enough bu the fact people buy into it is even worse.

And as as been pointed out the staff are already being hit a number of ways - none of the usual profit sharing, bonsues or pay increases which are a noaml part of salary and reward the hard work that has been put in, and also most pf the staff are shareholders too and have been encourage for years to enter monthly share purchase scheems and the like so are probably hit more than most.

Some execs deserve the stick but not the on the ground staff, it's pathetic.

Just one last note - it's been much reported that the Govt own most of the banks, that actually won't be know until after existing holders have had the chance to take up the offer. More bad reporting.

20

Duncan in Edinburgh,

12/11/2008 13:17:54
This is just stupid. £10 a head for Christmas meals is derisory. I would prefer them to spend £5 million and give people a decent night out. Alex Neil is just stirring, as usual. Pathetic Nats.
21

DAVID,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 13:18:05
What people up here don't realise is that the spend on the London and New York equivalents will be even greater.

RBS have for years indulged their Markets employees with loads of high-end junkets and the Christmas parties for Retail / Manufacturing people will be the merest tip of the iceberg.
22

Cheradenine,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 13:20:26
#17 I agree what a complete idiot. In fairness though there isn't a Holyrood Christmas party, everyone has a bit of a sing a long in the garden lobby and it costs about £3.50.

#5 Alex who exactly do you have to bribe to hold a Christmas party?
23

Brian Ferrari,

12/11/2008 13:20:34
I wonder how much the taxpayer will be paying for the various festive frivolities laid on for our MSPs ?
24

Sc0tsman,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 13:21:47
I take it the Evening News will be asking for all Councils who invested large sums of Money in Icelandic Banks and are having to be bailed out to cancel all staff Christmas Parties as well?

25

Brian Ferrari,

12/11/2008 13:24:50
Dear Mr Alex Neil

I was sorry to hear that owing to the credit crunch you will not be utilising any taxpayers' money for Christmas celebrations this year and that instead you would be paying for these costs out of your own pocket. It must come as a considerable blow to you all not to have free unlimited supplies of alcohol and food. I wish you and your wasteline well.

Brian
26

John Knox furr First Meenister,

Embra 12/11/2008 13:26:46
I blame the three Kings for taking gifts to baby Jesus. That started the rot. What's wrong with a simple day of prayer?
27

Jane Plane,

12/11/2008 13:51:46
I assume all those against this small gesture would refuse similar from their employer or give the resulting 'bonus' to charity......
28

Bill MacD,

12/11/2008 14:01:16
More kneejerk negativity from the 'always take the worst angle' Evening News! I would expect any organisation to treat its staff decently, which includes the odd little treat like a contribution to an Xmas party. Ten quid each? Pah. Trust this rag to turn that into a supposed scandal, by finding some moaning minnie to produce a 'scandal' quote on demand.
29

Gavin L,

edinburgh 12/11/2008 14:07:02
Can the evening News and the Scotmsna please stop posting tabloid headlines. Who really wants to hear this utter rubbish.
30

Who let the dogs out?,

12/11/2008 14:08:44
If they have 100,000 staff £10 a head is nothing !

Evening news, stop trying to create trouble
31

just-whatever-eh,

DR/F1/MO2 12/11/2008 14:15:22
There is NOTHING wrong in this story.

Lloyds TSB also do this & they have taken money from the govt., HBOS probably do the same.

If you're going to write an article like this, write an article moaning about these companies giving their staff money toward a Christmas night out, don't just single out RBS.
32

Sipeki,

Clacks 12/11/2008 14:16:09
10 quid is not much per head.

Also consider that the money will go towards local hostelers and eateries. Supporting local business.

I remember one Christmas party at RBS, xmas lunch more like. Which was a couple of pints, and a sandwich.
33

just-whatever-eh,

DR/F1/MO2 12/11/2008 14:18:07
#31 How can the back office staff also be responsible for this scenario??

They merely follow procedures set down to them from management further up the chain. They have little to bu99er all influence over the organisations corporate strategy!!!
34

Northfieldhearts,

12/11/2008 14:29:15
What a total joke! They should be giving absolutely zip for the mess they have got themselves into.
35

Edward,

12/11/2008 14:50:39
So Scotsman Publications, why not come clean (if thats at all possible!) and state categorically just how much per head is being paid for this years Christmas bash for staff??
While your at it, why not find out what the Labour Government are doing this Christmas, that will be each Departments christmas party in London as well as the Civil service parties for each department, all of course at taxpayers expense!
36

Edward,

12/11/2008 14:53:26
'Barclays and Morgan Stanley have both told staff they will not be funding Christmas parties' Basically because their broke! Also Barclays are reknowned for being a bit tight at the best of times, xcept of course if your a director
37

JML,

12/11/2008 15:52:34
£10 is a pittance!!! How much are other companies spending on staff Christmas nights out, I think my company is shelling out about £70 or £80 per staff member AND their partners!

I agree with Duncan #25 - give em £50 a head so they can let off some steam. Remember, these are the poor customer-facing sods getting all the grief. They deserve better than a £10 a-head cremated slice of turkey and a glass of paint stripper.

Get your finger out RBS!

(And before anyone says it - I'm not a bank worker)
38

PaulB,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 15:57:49
What a ridiculous story - it's only £10 per employee subsidy - houw much are EEN staff getting from their employer for a Christmas party? maybe just a case of sour grapes? Leave the staff alone! (and I am a bank customer, not a member of staff at RBS)
39

Noodle doodle,

Property bubble, Edinburgh 12/11/2008 16:20:10
Never mind £1m on a party, how much is being spent on heating and lighting these people in their work with taxpayers money? They should be forced to work illuminated by a single flickering flame from a candle made from their own body fat, and wrapped up in rough hessian clothes after the heating's switched off with all icicles hanging from their nose. Harrumph!
40

NorT,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 16:39:16
It may only be £10 a head but it is our, the taxpayers, money they are spending not the bank's.
41

Nellie Rogers,

12/11/2008 16:43:08
#46
It's £10 a head more than nurses, care workers and any local government employees will be getting towards their christmas party.

These frontline workers, many on low pay, who graft all year (including festive cover)get hee haw and have to find the cost of works partys from their own pockets. Have done for as long as I can remember.

I find it incredible that it should be any other way.

Local authority workers want a fair pay rise and get told there is no spare money. Government bail out banks with ludicrous sums. And they get a few free bevvies thrown in for everyone as well.
42

Duncan in Edinburgh,

12/11/2008 17:03:32
#48 How outrageous! Or at least it would be, if it were true. Which, of course, it isn't.
43

Lord_S,

Dump 12/11/2008 17:57:54
Why have comments been pulled from the house price fantasy story?
44

Flying Upsidedown,

edinburgh 12/11/2008 18:29:06
We are told that the country cannot afford to give public sector workers a decent pay increase, local and national government use the argument that private sector workers are not getting pay rises so it would be unfair to give public service workers a decent pay rise.

However the public sector workers - who are all tax payers - end up paying for private sector workers bonuses. That is a scandal whether the 'bankers' are paid a bonus of £1 or £1m. No public service workers will get any bonus. Try telling the low paid and unemployed this is fair!

The rules should be fair and be seen to be fair. The government are pumping £ billions of taxpayers money into these banks and should ensure that everyone is treated equally.

If they don't the public will remember all this when they next get a chance to vote (or before then) There is likely to be a 'winter of discontent' that'll make Ted Heaths problems of 1978/79 look like a picnic.
45

Uncle Piehead,

12/11/2008 18:50:23
£10 a head? Outrageously mean.

All £10 pays for in 'bank world' is a letter.

Give 'em £50 each, I say.
46

is it me?,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 18:55:54
Never in my life did I work in a business where the staff didn't have to chip-in for their own parties.

But then I never worked in a business which was stuffed with Other People's Money.

Serves me right suppose.
47

Vince R,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 19:24:03
Has "journalism" really degenerated to this level?

I work for RBS. I work extremely hard for RBS. I have had one day off in the last 3 weeks and regularly work 10-11 hour days. I don't get any overtime for this and will not get any bonus this year but I do this for personal pride and to continue to deliver service for our customers.

So £10 to cover my Christmas lunch is "obscene"?

If you want to turn RBS into a public sector mentality, keep up the low work...

I think you'll find that as RBS employs the equivalent of a small city and operates thousands of branches and offices, our annual overheads will be several billion pounds each year so pouring over every £1M seems somewhat infantile at best or naive at worst.

Oh, and lets not forget that RBS employees are typically shareholders, customers and also significant tax payers. We also contribute significant amounts to charity each year which RBS double matches, i.e. I pay £10, RBS adds £20. Do we want to moan about that or does that not make such good copy?

No wonder the country is feeling depressed when all we get is drivel like this...can we please get some good news stories? They do exist.

48

Whats the script?,

Wheatfield G 12/11/2008 19:36:35
This is nonsense. Evening News has managed to slip furhter into the gutter.
As a Finance Manager I am in constant contact with bank staff everyday. I meet with our bank relationship manager on a regular basis and you have never met a more helpful guy in your life, and these guys are under immense pressure at the moment. They deserve a damn sight more than a tenner.
49

is it me?,

Edinburgh 12/11/2008 19:43:54
#56
Yes, yes, yes. Your working conditions are probably better than most wage earners. If £10 is such an insignificant amount, do the right thing and buy your own lunch.
Just keep your sticky hands out of my drawer, OK. (It's the stoory one going back to the '70s ).
50

No thanks...,

Scotchland 12/11/2008 21:22:14
Interesting, JPM, profitable, private, says, no, we will save money. American.

RBS, failed, nationalised, says, well hell yes, spend spend spend... British,

I know its a shock for all you bankers, but the notion that a: your busines is sound b: you have a job for life is well and truly over. With business going bust and further house price declines, how much more can your employer e.g. the banks afford to loose?
51

Robert12,

12/11/2008 22:33:01
So it's a disgrace when the council spends a couple of grand putting up a glass wall to improve the working environment, yet when RBS spends 300k on a party it's fine? Classic stuff.
52

Rolfie,

Edinburgh 13/11/2008 07:02:33
Perhaps Alex Neil and the so called journalist reponsible for this tabloid muck stirring would like to tell us what freebies they will be getting for Xmas. Then we could decide if a contribution of £10 per person for a Xmas meal is really obscene. As for the £300,000 for 70 people, get your calculator out! Any idiot can see it doesn't make any sense.

Why don't you pick on the few RBS executives responsible for all the bad decisions rather than the front line staff? who incidently have also lost their life savings and didn't get bonuses of over £1m last year.
53

John Knox furr First Meenister,

Embra 13/11/2008 11:32:36
Pair wee Alex, still sair from the rogering he got at Glenrothes, I imagine.
54

Stuarty purty,

Kuala Lumpur 13/11/2008 14:29:07
Is it me?,Edinburgh #58

I don't know what your politics are but it is very obvious that you are an incredibly small person, probably who had difficulty understanding at school, well balanced as you probably have equeal chips on both shoulders and Mum probably gave you sweets and then took them away!

How can you assume Vince R's working condition? You asume that because he works for a bank that he has it cosy.

You are most certainly a prize Pr**k of the first order. A real hero?
55

psycho,

edinburgh 13/11/2008 15:25:04
I am more concerned about certain banks raising credit card charges when there has been an interest cut-they deserve a mass switch from them via "moneysavingexpert" to other companies

 

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