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86 windows smashed by vandals in single night



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Published Date: 04 September 2008
A COMMUNITY centre has been left under siege by vandals who have smashed windows every weekend for months.
Management at the Craigentinny Community Centre fear the constant bills for repairing the damage will threaten the future of services it provides for the young and elderly.

Centre vice-chairman Giacomo Modica estimates there have been just three or four weekends since Easter when no windows were broken.

On the worst occasion, August 11, police say a total of 86 windows were smashed, 66 at the community centre and a further 20 in the door panels of the social work department at the site. The damage continued this weekend, when a further 16 were broken.

The continuing repairs mean the costs are racking up, with Edinburgh City Council estimating the bill to date at £5500.

Mr Modica, who is also chairman of the Craigentinny and Meadowbank Community Centre, said: "On one occasion we actually saw the youths coming into the grounds on CCTV, one with a hammer and one with a crowbar, so they're actually coming in to do it.

"We've got CCTV but it's very antiquated. Unless you see their faces during the daylight it's really bad, so we can't identify the youths. We've been asking for quite some time for new CCTV with infrared."

He said he feared the cost of repairs could come off the centre's budget: "That means that to balance ourselves off we might have to reduce some of the services which could affect youth work, senior citizens and other community groups that use the centre."

Linda Brown's children Luke, six, and Cody, 11, use the centre, which is attached to Craigentinny Castle, on a regular basis. She said: "We're angry to say the least. It's happening constantly and with it being attached to the old castle, I don't know if we can fit any kind of grilles."

The self-employed book-keeper said: "They've a Spanish playgroup on a Saturday morning and a primary one to primary three youth club and they have to avoid certain areas of the building when this has happened.

"I think most of the people doing it aren't even from this area, they come here because they'll get away from being watched. What do you do? You don't want it like a fortress but it's going to have to be."

Ms Brown, 44, added: "The police are not even trying to move them on. It's lack of policing and it's also down to the fact that the community wardens that we fought hard to get are now based at Craigmillar and we don't see them."

A council spokeswoman said: "Security and protecting our buildings and their occupants is one of our key priorities when considering allocation of funding from the capital programme.

"Officers are in the process of liaising with the centre to try to find a solution to this issue."

A police spokeswoman was unable to comment on the issue of policing levels or community wardens, but said: "This does seem to be a repeat problem, so we would appeal for anyone with information to come forward."


The full article contains 525 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 04 September 2008 2:54 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

alex.d.,

edinburgh 04/09/2008 12:11:43
This is disgusting, these vandals should be caught and made to pay every penny of the cost of the damage. If they are under age the parents should have to fork out.
Shutters are the only answer to avoid this happening. Its such a shame people have to be destructive,but to be fair to the police even when caught the punishment is not enough.Let the punishment fit the crime, and make it hurt where it hurts most THEIR POCKETS
2

alex paterson,

edinburgh 04/09/2008 12:13:12
Do they not have cctv,or any kind of security.
3

Florentine_Pogen,

04/09/2008 12:14:38
"A police spokeswoman was unable to comment on the issue of policing levels.."

Pathetic.

Translation :- "The police never go there..."

There you have it.
4

Cappo Del Monte,

04/09/2008 12:15:58
#2
Try reading the article, duh
5

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04/09/2008 12:17:23
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6

Sarcasm,

04/09/2008 12:25:22
"This does seem to be a repeat problem, so we would appeal for anyone with information to come forward"

So isolated incidents are of no interest then.
7

The Hallucinist,

04/09/2008 12:32:11
Friend of Fernando Poo

There is definitely a need for a night watchman.
8

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

04/09/2008 12:33:14
how on earth did they manage to drive into the grounds on cctv ?
9

Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 04/09/2008 12:34:13
Young hibs fans no doubt .
10

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

04/09/2008 12:34:38
"on one occasion we actually saw the youths coming into the ground on cctv" - as witnessed by Mr Modica
11

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 04/09/2008 12:35:22
We must have the worst police force in the land, if you see a policeman walking it means his car has just broken down. Everyone knows a policeman on the beat is the answer to a lot of these problems but the authorities refuse as they seem to think they know best.
12

aurorablue,

04/09/2008 12:39:41
Maybe they should actually finish the CCTV installation job - there is a tall post with no camera attached on Craigentinny Road, which if installed would capture the Loaning Road area. Lack of police presence is certainly an issue - I would invite the police to come down on any Friday or Saturday night and I'm sure they'll find some work that needs doing. The number of gangs in this area has increased recently and I'm glad I'm moving out of the area. It'll not be long before they close that school too - keep watching the council hitlist for next couple of years - the school has already had major staff cutbacks. Watch this space ...
13

ST170,

04/09/2008 12:42:20
#5 sensible comment. Ah picture it now lots of grown up thugs going around little thugs teeth in...
14

EnEm,

EDINBURGH 04/09/2008 12:43:22
We don't see the community wardens in Craigmillar, either, Mr Brown, and the Police are only interested when you threaten to do their job for them instead of leaving it to be done by magic like they do.
15

ST170,

04/09/2008 12:43:57
#11 because it is proven that a car will get to a crime quicker than a bobby on the beat. Face it there is nothing we can do about these kids, well maybe if #5 was in charge...
16

The Hallucinist,

04/09/2008 12:44:18
#11 We have police on the beat where I live. However, we see them walking around the estate at 8.30-9.00 in the morning - obviously lots of gangs roaming at this time in the morning and much criminal activity.
17

The Hallucinist,

04/09/2008 12:45:11
#14 Or covertly.
18

Scaffolder,

04/09/2008 12:54:27
Make the parents pay..
and pay big!!
19

WKKB,

04/09/2008 12:56:06
one word....plexiglass
20

elayne,

04/09/2008 13:01:13
i always thought craigintinny to be one of the better areas!i agree that the parents should be held responsible,its all very well grounding wee johnny for a week but losing money will be more effective
21

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 13:03:15
#9 - "Young hibs fans no doubt."

Or young Hibs players
22

aurorablue,

04/09/2008 13:07:25
#20 Craigentinny has its posh bits and it's council / ex-council homes bits too. It's not the worst place in the world but in my opinion the area has got worse the past few years. Lack of anything to do in the area is an issue but mostly I place blame on the parents that don't know or have no interest in what their own kids are doing at night.
23

Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 04/09/2008 13:12:14
Ha Ha 21 - probably Riordan and Oconnor on a night out .
24

Journalistic licence,

On the move 04/09/2008 13:15:39
Why not transform the surrounding area so that a huge electric jolt could be surged through the ground and frazzle them all.
Just remember to switch it aff on Monday mornings.
25

Craigie Boy,

Carluke 04/09/2008 13:16:59
I'm sure the Community Wardens would have alerted the Police immediately had they witnessed this incident. They do an excellent job here as elsewhere. Unfortunately, they cannot be everywhere at once.
26

aurorablue,

04/09/2008 13:22:50
#23 There is a lack of things to do for older teenage kids in the area. Plently of toddler activities at the castle but few activities for older kids! Council recently built a miniscule playpark suitable for toddlers which is hardly ever used - money could have been better spent. Also now that Ewan Aitken has stepped down, the council will be in no hurry to do anything in Craigentinny.
27

aurorablue,

04/09/2008 13:26:37
#23 what has portobello got to offer older kids - in particular those kids who have little to no spending money - a wee paddle in the sea - i think not!
By the way, I in no way condone youths behaviour and beleive that setting a 9pm curfew is the way forward in reducing crime and making parents take some responsibility of their sprogs.
28

Bruce Lee,

04/09/2008 13:27:49
"the police don't even move them on" and exactly what power do the police have to "move them on" if their just standing there!
29

Poetess50,

04/09/2008 13:38:24
Make the parents pay. Or electrify the windows somehow -that would teach the little s****!!
30

johnandyoko,

04/09/2008 14:39:44
#9 ,#21,and #24 I went to Craigentinny school and the fitba team had to wear Hearts strips, a definate case of child abuse ! No wonder there's a lot o' tension to release for these kids.
31

Normy,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 14:43:32
#28 The miniscule playpark would be better used by toddlers if it wasnt being used by older children as somewhere to hang-out/destroy/drink/smash glass insert as appropriate.

As for nothing to offer the older kids, thats a rubbish excuse for what they have done. As always this goes back to the parents who seem to have no interest in what there children are doing and no interest in bringing them up with respect and decent moral fibre.
32

The Judge,

04/09/2008 14:49:52
I wrote to Kenny McCaskill a while ago and asked him why his government don't introduce fines for parents when their offspring carried out this kind of vandalism.

His response?

It would be unfair to punish the parents for their children's crimes.

Another vote winner Kenny.
33

aurorablue,

04/09/2008 14:51:41
#34 I'm not making excuses for their behaviour problems, i'm meerly stating some facts. Even when the big kids aren't in the wee playpark I still don't see it getting used - I'm a mum of a 3 yr old so I should know! I'm counting the days til i'm out of that sithole
34

Unimpressed one,

04/09/2008 15:06:05
#8, "How on earth did they manage to drive into the grounds on cctv ?"

That would be a mobile unit then?
35

Ed_Izmir,

Turkey 04/09/2008 15:19:58
Couple of large dogs...problem solved.
36

FrankGallagher,

04/09/2008 15:38:28
It looks like a scene from byker grove
37

SPG,

edinburgh 04/09/2008 16:10:46
CCTV?? What about some armed watchtowers ya bunch of pussies! Time the law was changed.
38

FrankGallagher,

04/09/2008 16:26:50
Not eldorado
39

Boy Wonder,

04/09/2008 16:39:49
#39 It IS Edinburgh's version of Byker Grove!!!
40

tomias,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 16:41:30
Another word- no glass- no windows; then see if that kick starts individually concerned local action.
If not- demolish it- they desrve what they get- individual have to accept respnsibity- yes I have just rereag Ritchie/Reid and Duns Scotus.And still remain anti American !
41

westsider,

04/09/2008 17:26:25
Once again this is got to laid on the doorstep off Lothian Buses.Obviously not enough buses in the area to use as target practice.As for the police not going there,would you?
42

GARY BARNA,

ASSARRET 04/09/2008 17:40:47


19. You might have something. Thereacrylic glass is used for submarine periscopes, and windshields, canopies, and gun turrets for airplanes. Only one problem, when it goes on fire it produces a lot of smoke.

ADIOS!

43

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 18:08:18
When these feral runts are apprehended they (or better still their parents) should be made to pay the costs of all repairs plus compensation for loss of use while the repairs are carried out.

Following this the vandals and their families should be shipped out to some far offshore island where they should be dumped with only the basics for survival (no alcohol, bingo, fitba' etc, etc) for a minimum of a year.

These retarded cretans have no place in our society and should be removed from the vicinity of decent law-abiding citizens until they learn to behave themselves.



44

Slobberchops the Aesthete,

Edinburgh 04/09/2008 19:51:44
#36 "I'm counting the days til i'm out of that sithole"

Would that be the Rev Mdabaningi Sithole, founder of the Zimbabwe African National Union?
45

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04/09/2008 20:54:46
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46

fmuldar,

New Jersey, USA 05/09/2008 03:57:57
Simple solution!! Eureka!!
"USE THICK PLASTIC PANES INSTEAD OF GLASS"!!
It is probably "Cheaper as well"
We had this same problem back when when "Vandals" started throwing rocks through "Many" "Public" school windows almost every day.
The Board of Ed in NYC--did as I suggest--put thick panes of plastic in all windows in all schools!
End of story!! End of "Vandalisum"---anything thrown will "Bounce" right off.
47

Fidelio,

Edinburgh 05/09/2008 08:34:54
Even simpler solution....catch the scum and cut the hands off them with a rusty hacksaw in public.

I would then bet my mortgage that the crime rate in the area would plummet.

Simple.
48

rorie,

alloa 05/09/2008 11:41:43
this could be deek's handiwork,efter a guid nicht oot at the gunner.
49

Calum Crubag,

05/09/2008 12:55:09
This is what happens when you ban Derek Riordain from the clubs.

Seriously, where are the cops? Stations are full of fat cops sitting about. Get them out. Especially when so many of the CCTV cameras seem to be switched off.

 

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