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Health and safety fears see dog classes banned from hall



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Published Date: 24 July 2008
IT can only be described as a case of ruff justice.
A popular dog obedience class which has been meeting in a Lothian town hall for five years without complaint has suddenly been locked out – for health and safety reasons.

Midlothian Council has banned dogs from all its buildings, saying they are not "compatible" with other uses, such as lunch clubs.

This has left 40 dogs and owners with nowhere to meet, after they were thrown out of Loanhead Town Hall.

Helen Watson, assistant trainer, has been running the classes with Yvonne Walker, an internationally renowned trainer. She said they were shocked by the decision.

She said: "We hold the classes twice a week, and we've never had any complaints.

"The caretaker loved having us, and was really sad when we had to leave.

"Midlothian Council is not providing any facilities for local people to train their dogs. What I can't understand is what they'll do when the dogs are out of control.

"I think the health and safety reasons are non-existent. We make sure the hall is spotless after we use it. Children are welcome. We encourage all the family to come along so they can see the kind of training the dogs get."

She said the classes were run to Kennel Club standards, and cover basic training as well as advanced skills such as agility. The groups is now struggling to find a permanent home.

"At the end of the day, we're helping people out and keeping people safe," she said. "It's important people know how to train their dogs."

Dog owner Margaret Henderson, 32, from Livingston, said she had travelled to the classes regularly for two years. She said they had made a huge difference to the behaviour of her pet Doberman.

She said: "I'm really upset and disappointed by this decision. I think there's a vital need for this type of training. It's really poor that the council can't accommodate these classes, when there are clearly problems with people not controlling their dogs.

"These are small classes and they are very well run. The hall is always left immaculate."

A spokesman for Midlothian Council stood by the ban.

He said: "It is felt that this type of use is not compatible with the facilities also being used for activities such as lunch clubs, blood transfusion, fitness classes, etc."

He said the council was currently reviewing the use of Loanhead Town Hall and other council buildings, and would be consulting the public.

An Edinburgh City Council spokeswoman added that it did not have a blanket ban on dogs, but would look at requests on an individual basis.

She said: "We wouldn't normally allow dogs into a working environment, but for some council buildings there may be exceptions."

In May, Lord Provost George Grubb hosted the city's first ever civic reception for dogs in the Lothian Chambers, to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the first appearance of Greyfriars Bobby.


The full article contains 502 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 25 July 2008 7:33 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

M33,

24/07/2008 12:25:00
Quite right. Dogs are very unhygienic. They lick their own and other dog's bits and then slobber all over your face in supposed 'shows of affection'.
2

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 12:31:30
These are not health and safety "fears" they are just stupid ideas dreamed up by moronic jobsworths who have nothing better to do.

Why is it that whenever anyone wants to organise something that brings people together, is enjoyable and has an overall benefit, some daft idiot in a proverbial peak cap decides that they can't do it because of "health and safety"?

The concept of "health and safety" was born in mines, shipyards, factories, railway yards etc. In other words, where a REAL danger exists and precautions must be taken in order to preserve life. These rules were never intended to apply to people getting together and training their dogs. Anyone who thinks they do is an idiot---including #1.
3

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

24/07/2008 12:39:12
I once had a dog with no tail - how did it smell ?... Terrible, ha ha
4

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

24/07/2008 12:39:57
Or am I thinking asbout the porpoise I had ?
5

Tortolano,

edinburgh 24/07/2008 12:43:31
Yet another example of our country going absolutely PC crazy. So the council dont want dogs in a room that also sometimes has food prepared - surely then they wouldnt want blood donations as well then as I would imagine this is more of a risk - complete nonsense.

Sounds like there is someone who works for Midlothian council that just doesnt like dogs.

As the article states these classes and countless others provide a service to the people who are voting these idiots in. By completing the kennel club tests the owners and dogs will have a better understanding of how to behave in public thus providing us with a healthier and safer society (real health and safety)

What are the council going to do next, ban dogs from walking on the same pavements?

#1 - you'd better take any form of affection you can - sounds like you need it.
6

Doggonedude,

kennel 24/07/2008 12:47:14
Well now they needn't complain when dogs are disobedient. This gives us a free leash to poop all over the streets. Hooray!
7

I love to eat Sellotape,

24/07/2008 12:50:53
3/4 - why don't you get a life instead of pretending to be someone you're not?
8

Peedie Paws,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 12:51:17
So let me get this straight - according to Midlothian council, dog's are unhygienic. But allowing blood to splat everywhere, food to be dropped and squashed into the floor and sweat pools through exercise are ok? Mmmm, methinks the council are barking mad!
9

John south of Soutra,

24/07/2008 12:53:17
This country has totally lost the plot with it's health & safety regulations, we now have coincil jobsworths dreaming up things to jusity thier existence, as was side previously, H & E regulations were brought in for building sites,mines etc where there was a risk to safety etc but now no-one can anything as it is risk, the nanny state rules and big brother is watching your every move
10

Alasdair MacWhirter,

tidying the greenhouse 24/07/2008 12:55:04
Has the journo who put this piece together just got back from her holidays.? This is a week old - the EN needs to be renamed the Evening Here's Last Week's News.
Things must be really slow on the news front - what next - Deltic class replacing steam locos on the east coast route?

From last week's Advertiser:

Howls of protest at dog ban at Loanhead Town Hall
Published Date:
17 July 2008
By Janet Bee
Chief Reporter
Midlothian Council has been told it should be ashamed of itself over its ban on dog groups from Loanhead Town Hall.
11

Jed Smith,

Moscow 24/07/2008 12:58:44

I wonder what Jenny mcArthur's forthright and frank opinion on this matter is? Probably "Dogs are great anyone that doesn't like dogs is a heartless murderer"

Barking.
12

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

24/07/2008 13:06:35
what we need is more haggis training classes. Some of them are pretty wild. Prince Harry told me
13

NorT,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 13:17:45
I think you will find that non of the activities mentioned i.e. lunch clubs etc are actually held in Loanhead Town Hall. There was more chance of catching something when the District Court was being held there.
14

Journalistic licence,

In the kennel 24/07/2008 13:21:41
I think we just need to pause and think about this so we're not barking up the wrong tree about this sorry tale. The journo has seen a lead and sniffed out a good story so stop all this bitchin' please.
15

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 13:24:59
The pun - fest starts here.
16

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 13:25:52
This has put a spaniel in the works.

(surely you can do better than that)
17

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 13:35:20
Mario,

Have you been dropping acid again? Good trip this time is it?
18

I love to eat Sellotape,

24/07/2008 14:37:40
17.

Look at the name again, airhead.
19

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24/07/2008 14:39:17
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20

Tortolano,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 15:05:36
Think there are a few people on here that could do with a little obedience training.
21

Angus R,

24/07/2008 15:16:16
Lead the way Tortolano.

22

Angus R,

24/07/2008 15:17:45
#10 - the EEN appear to have made a bit of a howler there then.
23

Jenny McArthur,

24/07/2008 16:02:49
dogs are a friend of the earth and dont run on petrol, all you drivers should get out there with a dog and walk instead of polluting the city with your death mobiles
24

Alberto.,

24/07/2008 16:51:47
What a surprise, and I wonder how many expensive Committee meetings that decision cost?

Even more surprising is that they prefer to ban dogs, but still allow Councillors to contaminate the building with some of the nasty little antics they get up to that we read about from time to time - far too often!

I cannot help feeling these latter mentioned 'completely untrained' species are far more harmful to others - as they seem to prove beyond all doubt - frequently!!!
25

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 17:02:33
Excellent idea Jenny!

And then, when we get where we are going, with our dogs, we will find that there are "no dogs allowed -- except guide dogs". So we will have to leave them tied up outside, which in turn will annoy yet another sector of the anti-everything brigade.

Aside from the obvious, why are guide dogs exempted from the dog-bans in many places? Presumably the bans on dogs are for hygiene reasons---or so we are led to believe. From a hygiene point of view, is one dog any different from another of the same breed? I very much doubt it.

In which case, if they are going to break the over-cautious hygiene rules for certain cases, why do the rest of us have to comply?

It's like saying, "no smoking except for old men" or (as several signs in Edinburgh DO say), "Weight limit 1.5 tonnes -- Except Buses".

Every day, this world gets madder and madder... ...and like fools, we all go along with it!! That's really what I cannot believe.
26

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24/07/2008 17:06:01
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27

Chris,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 18:28:47
Is dog owner Margaret Henderson saying that having attended the classes regularly for two years all that has been achieved is "a huge difference to the behaviour of her pet Doberman"? How many classes has she been to in those two years - 2?
28

Not mad just unique!,

24/07/2008 19:44:06
woof woof wooofy woof woof!!
29

is it me?,

Edinburgh 24/07/2008 20:59:04
When I let my dog off the leash he runs on un-leaded.

 

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