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MSPs see red over 'farcical' car park failure at Holyrood



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Published Date: 21 November 2008
A £250,000 traffic light system to control entry to the Scottish Parliament's underground car park has broken down less than six months after it was installed.
MSPs driving up to the car park entrance have found the lights stuck on red, leaving security guards to wave them through after checking there are no vehicles coming in the opposite direction.

Parliament officials admitted there had been "teethin
g problems" with the system over the past few weeks.

But MSPs branded the situation "farcical".

The new traffic control measures, which also involve pop-up security barriers, began operating at the end of May after taking twice as long to install as originally planned.

The traffic lights at the top and bottom of the narrow ramp down to the car park are designed to avoid bumps between cars entering the building and ones leaving.

MSPs have been given swipe cards, and an intercom link was installed so drivers could speak to the security gatehouse.

Car park users were issued with an eight-page guide explaining how the new arrangements worked.

After initially working well, the system has developed problems over the past few weeks.

One MSP said: "About half the times I've used the car park over the last month, the green light has not worked and they have had to have someone waving you on. It's a bit farcical.

"The other day when I drove in and pressed the buzzer I was told they would press the button for the light to go green and the barrier to go down, but if it stayed at red I could go anyway.

"They obviously didn't know whether it was going to work or not."

He said he could not understand what had gone wrong.

"It should not complicated – it's basically a light at the top and a light at the bottom and when one's red the other should be green. I don't think they needed it in the first place – you used to just toot your horn to let people know someone was coming and to my knowledge there were no problems, but £250,000 is a lot of money for something that doesn't work."

Another MSP said: "It's a good system when it works, but there have been glitches recently. It comes and goes."

He said the repeated failures had led to more problems, because people now thought it was not working even when it was, and would drive through red lights.

The contract for installing the new vehicle entry system was £263,806, but lasts for ten years to cover repair and maintenance.

A parliament spokesman said: "There are teething issues with the traffic lights which we expect to resolve over the coming weeks.

"Lights have been stuck on red on occasion and security staff have had to wave cars through manually. We are working with the contractors to resolve it.

"We don't know if there will be any cost (to the parliament] associated with this. The priority is to get it fixed."





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  • Last Updated: 21 November 2008 9:12 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Unimpressed one,

21/11/2008 12:08:15
£250,000??? I'd stand and direct their cars for £25,000 a year for the next 10 years. Once the money ran out it would be every man (and woman) for themselves.
2

James (1),

21/11/2008 12:11:42
This needs to be sorted and damn quick!

We cannot let MSP's be subjected to the same treatment that members of the public have to put up with.
Traffic lights in the real world are installed and switched on.
What about synchronising them so that traffic actually flows?
That is why we have the law of averages. Some of the traffic lights will assist traffic flow. It's a matter of luck.
3

Look on the Bright side,

21/11/2008 12:13:21
#1 you should be able to email your CV via the Parliament website.
4

Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 12:24:08
Think I am going to double up with laughter. P**s up in a brewery comes to mind. £250k?????
5

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 21/11/2008 12:28:01
And they don't take the bus/train/cycle/walk, why ?
6

Skip McClendon,

21/11/2008 12:29:39
Yeah, it's so annoying when the lights at the free car park at your place of work - situated right next to major public transport links - doesn't work quite as well as you'd like, despite you spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayers' cash making it all technological gimmickish and shiny...
7

alex paterson,

edinburgh 21/11/2008 12:36:52
What does still work at the Parliament,every installation of all sorts so far have broke down at one time or another.
8

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 12:37:00
The entrance to the underground carp park at Holyrood is wide enough to allow traffic in both directions. Why are traffic lights needed?
9

I love to eat Sellotape,

21/11/2008 12:37:02
Could they not replace this with a lollipop man called Simon?
10

Sister Morag,

Lasswade 21/11/2008 12:38:32
They should all be made to use public transport - see if they can't boost the numbers of passengers using LRT's buses.
11

Bob 2,

21/11/2008 12:40:59
yip

they tell us to Use Public Transport OR Walk OR Cycle to work.

but they Drive to work.
12

malcyh,

21/11/2008 12:48:18
The two lanes are not required for the cars, it's for the MP's over inflated egos.
13

JulesF,

Kirkliston 21/11/2008 13:26:21
I'll bet they have installed the system designed for the Council debating chamber by mistake !

Does anyone know if TIE had a hand in the design specs ? Did Carrilion install it ?
14

Bored,

21/11/2008 13:27:46
#1 Unimpressed one
You would be there for 24 hours a day 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for only £25,000pa? You're cheap. I'll consider you next time I am looking for employees. In the meantime, could you send me your CV?
15

ddmc,

21/11/2008 13:37:15
free parking in town, i thought only cooncil officials got that perk, i wonder how busy it is at the weekend, or are the MSP's going to claim that they work on saturday too
16

Mallory,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 14:12:10
Why don't they use the perfectly good bus service?
17

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21/11/2008 14:18:15
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18

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 14:55:48
When the wee pretendy Parliament was still a glint in Mr Manuelez's eye, the wee daft cycling eco-warrior lassie, Sarah Boyack (Labour), who'd been made Prefect and Chief Milk-Monitor in charge of Transport, decided that they wouldn't all need an allocated parking space when they eventually got into their splendid new Palace of the Tribunes. She said they'd be able to walk down from the Waverley, cycle or use the bus. Bet she's still popular with her colleagues!
19

SNP BUBBLY CHOPS,

Edinburgh 21/11/2008 15:01:34
Why don't they just install a helicopter landing pad and fly the fat cats to work. £250,000 IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR FAILURE.... HOW MUCH ARE THE TRAMS COSTING ?
20

Top_Dawg,

21/11/2008 15:11:54
#6, they are waiting for tram work to be finished so they can use that of course! lol
21

Look on the Bright side,

21/11/2008 16:51:17
Could they not demolish the Parliament and rebuild it nearer to the tram lines saving the requirement for cars, buses, trains? They could then give them relocation packages to move closer to the tram line. Another cost effective proposal as it'll save having to get the barrier fixed.
22

Cynicaltalk,

21/11/2008 17:11:13
Do as we say, not as we do! You nondescript trolls.

If us high and mighty MSP's wish to drive our 4x4's half a mile to work, we jolly well will.

But you should think shame on yourself for not walking or cycling the entire distance of your 30 mile commute. Don't you know the world is melting?
23

11+failed,

The pans 21/11/2008 17:45:53
Just like the parliament building itself, badly designed. A new underground car park without separate ingress and egress? The architect was incompetent, an accident waiting to happen, especially when drunks like Foulkes might be the users.
24

mr angry,

ayrshire 21/11/2008 19:02:35
14# considering they only attend 3 days a week, and for short hours, with 4 months at least holidays, it sounds like good number to me.
25

Ian down under,

Musselburgh 21/11/2008 20:47:03
In view of the way the SNP have quietly put spanners in the works of public transport projects that ordinary people use this makes me smile. Maybe Mr Trump's emissary will have to get a ramp to get his fleet of Lexi straight up to his office, and a helicopter to bring in the curries and fish suppers.
26

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 21/11/2008 21:18:12
DOES.ANYTHING.WORK.AT.THAT.UGLY.LOOKING.PLACE
27

Mr A Roy,

21/11/2008 23:02:03
#1.
Nevermind directing their cars for them, just ticket them £60 a pop, taste of their own medicine, and dont forget start digging up the car park and install a tram line, the gas pipes, water, electricity,But of course dont do any work !

 

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